Do You Still Lose?
Why Forex Traders Lose - Different Reasons for Forex Traders Failure
Hello 
It is a long time that we didn’t have any new post on the site and so the site has been almost inactive. From now on, the introduction and also the tip of the day that we have in the members area, on the daily and weekly reports, will be published on the public area of the site and so everybody can use it. Just the market analysis and forex signals stays in the members area. This not only helps our free users to know what is going on inside the members area, but also helps the members to post comments and have discussions because it is not possible to post any comment on the members area.
The other thing is that many of you ask us about having a discussion board. We love to do it but it will be too much work because it is not easy to moderate and manage a discussion board. So for now, we just have to be happy with posting comments on the daily posts. Maybe in future we will run a discussion board too.
The last thing is that, you may ask why we do not publish the market analysis reports on the public area any more. We were used to it with one week delay but it is several days that we have not done it. There are some reasons for that. First of all, some of our predictions, specially on our weekly reports, can be applied for the next several days, weeks and even months. Our members are paying to receive these information and it is not fair that it becomes published on the site for free. It is also the same with the market analysis and our systems training. Some people are paying for them. Why should the others receive them for free?
The other reason is that, we just thought why should we publish the reports on the site? What are we supposed to prove? Are we trying to prove that we are doing good?
If the answer to the last question is yes, I have to say that we are wrong. We do not have to prove anything. Our performance and behavior are the best proof of our good job. Those who are familiar with this business and industry (Online Forex Trading) can see and feel the difference. They can see that there are real people and traders working here. We are not robots. People know us. We answer their questions and communicate with them. We do not even moderate the comments they post here. Just submit a comment and you will see that it becomes published on the site right away. We are not proud or arrogant BUT we know that we are really different and we do not have to prove anything. We do not have to convince people to join our program. Our difference is obvious and doesn’t need to become proven.
Ok! Here is the introduction and also the tip of the day we had for today’s Forex market analysis . Of course the tip of the day we have on this post includes three previous tip of the day.
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We took two positions last night and again, as soon as one of them went against us, we received some messages from some of our members who were not happy with those positions. We expected to see this from new members but I think we also had some messages from old members. Unfortunately it seems some of our friends ignore the other things we mention here and just wait for some signals to take and make money. We spend lots of time for having tip of the day and tell you what forex is and how a forex trader should be. You please also spend some time everyday and read our advice like tip of the day and the other notes we have on our analysis reports.
It seems we have to repeat this everyday (although if we do it, some of our friends will not bother to read):
Forex trading is not a lottery. It is not a get-rich-quick program. It is not a Ponzi scheme. It is a business. It is “trading”. It is buying and selling. It is buying high and selling higher. It is selling low and buying lower. It is a deal. It is “trading”.
We analyze the market, find the trades, take our positions, set our stop loss and target and THEN we do not know what will happen next.
We do not know if it will move to our favorite direction and hits our target or it will move to the other direction and hit the stop loss.
We do not know if it will move toward our target right away or it will fool around and goes against us first and then changes its direction and goes to the target.
When we take a position, we should not expect it run toward the target and hit it in one second. It takes time. It may go against us and it may even become close to the stop loss. Sometimes it may even hit the stop loss and this is normal.
If when you take a position and it goes against you, you feel over-stressed and overwhelmed and can not control your emotions, it means there is a problem. Maybe you are trading a big amount of money that you can not afford to lose. Maybe you are not following the money management rules. Or maybe you don’t know what forex trading is.
Here on forexoma.com, we follow some systems that have already been proven to us that they work and they are strong. Our systems are the best and most technical and scientific systems. Almost all of the top professional traders use the same systems. Our systems are developed based on the foundation of trading which is technical analysis of the price chart. Here, we not only teach our system, but we report the signals we find based on them. The success rate of our system is almost close to 100%. You can admit this if you check the positions we have taken so far and the directions we predicted based on this system.
Almost all of our predictions came true. Please don’t hesitate to let us know if you don’t agree - and then we will suspend your account right away!
Just kidding! You know that we will never do it 
So when we see a position goes against us, we don’t care, because we know that we have followed our rules and we have to leave the rest to the market. If it hits our stop loss, it is ok. Even the most professional traders have losing trades. Even the most professional traders have losing days, weeks or even months. This is normal because it is a business and in a business there are profits and losses.
So please have all the above things in your mind before you take the next position and before you keep on working on forex trading.
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Tip of the Day:
Why Forex Traders Lose?
This is a very important question and it needs several articles to be explained. There are a lot of reasons for forex traders failure. We try to focus on one of them everyday.
Knowledge Deficiency:
You want to make money through forex trading but maybe you have not learned enough yet. You should spend some time and learn it. To learn the forex basics, you don’t have to spend any money. You don’t have to sign up for expensive training courses or buy expensive DVDs. All the information you need can be found over the internet for free. You just need to know what you should learn. You don’t have to learn everything related to forex and money market. You don’t have to learn about all the fundamentals. If you like to be a personal forex trader, you need to learn the basics. The below links can help you to understand more about forex and the way it works. Do not spend your time to learn a lot. Most of the things we learn may never be any help and sometimes they make problems. They make us over-cautious and over-analyzer. They make more fear and prevent us from taking action.
Here are some links that may help you to learn the basics that you need to become a forex trader:
Forex Basics
What Is Forex and How to Make Money with It?
Is Forex a Suitable Business for Everybody?
When You Will Be A Professional Forex Trader?
Do You Want to Change Your Life? First You Should Learn to Control Your Fear!
Forex Charts - How to Use Different Types of Charts in Forex Trading
The Language of Japanese CandleSticks - The Only Real Time Indicators
What Is Heikin-Ashi and How to Trade with It?
Renko Chart - How to Trade Using Renko Charts
How to Use Technical Analysis in Forex and Stock Trading?
How to Trade Using Trendlines, Head and Shoulders, Triangles, Double Tops and Bottoms, Flags, Pennants, Wedges…
How to Use Moving Averages in Forex Trading
Where Is the Best Place for Stop Loss and Limit Orders?
How to Use Pivot Points in Forex and Stock Trading?
How to Choose the Best Currency pairs for Forex Trading
How to Use Bollinger Bands in Forex and Stock Trading
What Is Going on in the Forex Market?
Money Management is a Ctirital Part of Forex Trading
Fibonacci
How To Use Fibonacci Numbers in Forex and Stock Trading
More About Using Fibonacci in Forex Trading
Tools, Indicators and Templates to Download
Download Heikin Ashi and Smoothed Heikin Ashi Indicator and Template for MetaTrader
Have All timeframes on One Single Chart in Your MetaTrader Platform (MT4)
Trading Systems (Strategies)
What System Do I Use to Pick the Signals in Forex Market?
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margin-left: 10px;” dir=”ltr”>Since two days ago, we started focusing on the reasons the forex traders lose. We didn’t get any free time to post the tip of the day for yesterday, but the day before, we mentioned that the first reason of forex traders failure, is knowledge deficiency. Hope you spend some time to follow the links we gave you to read the articles. If not, please take a look again and try to do it.
margin-left: 10px;”>Today, we will focus on one of the reasons that causes forex traders to lose: Experience Deficiency
margin-left: 10px;”>No other job like forex trading needs experience, and experience doesn’t come, but through continuous and consistent practice. Sometimes there is a trade setup, but your experience tells you not to enter. You have seen it with us. Sometimes we wait for a support/resistance line break, but we don’t take any position when it happens and we prefer to wait. We try to explain why, but sometimes it is too hard to explain. You just feel that you should not enter. This feeling is not among those emotions that have to be controlled. This feeling comes from experience. Although a support line is broken, your experience tells you that the upward movement is not completed yet and it will go up at least for one more time and you are right in most of the cases, because you have already experienced it.
margin-left: 10px;”>Please follow the link below to know what stages you have to pass to become a professional trader:
When You Will Be A Professional Forex Trader?
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margin-left: 10px;” dir=”ltr”>e mentioned two reasons for forex traders failure so far: 1. Knowledge Deficiency and 2. Experience Deficiency
margin-left: 10px;” dir=”ltr”>The third reason we want to discuss today is Over-Confidence. I know I have already talked about it, but it is always necessary to be reminded. New forex traders always move between two points of lack of confidence and over-confidence. They lose their confidence as soon as they make a bad trade and lose money and they become over-confident and think that they are the best traders in the world with having one or a few good trades. Unfortunately some of them succeed to double or triple their accounts with one or two positions that they have taken and hold blindly. I said “unfortunately” because this apparent success causes them to put more money in the next trades and lose everything they have in one single trade. I have seen a family that lost everything they had in just ONE single trade. Yes, everything they had, including their house, in one single trade. I have also seen a trader who wiped out a 7 million dollar account in few days.
margin-left: 10px;” dir=”ltr”>Why? Only because of over-confidence. That family started trading only after 9 days of demo trading. They were bad luck enough to triple a demo account in a few days and then they decided to triple all they had in a few days!!! The other trader was used to be successful for a few years but suddenly he felt that it is him who tells the market where to go and what to do. So he bought EUR-USD right at the middle of the recession, last year, and exactly when EUR-USD was going down strongly. He just bought when he saw a false buy signal that had to be ignored. Then when it went against him, instead of closing his position, he added to his bad position (he averaged down). Not one or two times. Several times. Each position 200 lots. He didn’t listen to anybody and now he is looking for someone to lend him some money to survive!!!
margin-left: 10px;” dir=”ltr”>Let me tell you something that you should never forget. Never think that you are a great trader after one, two or a few trades and even after one, two or a few successful months or even years. Also never lose your confidence after one, two or a few trades and even after one, two or a few bad months or even years.
margin-left: 10px;” dir=”ltr”>You should have a good system that gives you buy and sell signals. When there is a trade setup, you should take the position and set your stop loss and target. That’s it. If it triggered your stop loss, it is ok. There are always many other opportunities on the way. If it triggered your target, good!
margin-left: 10px;”>You should always do this. No matter if it is the first day of your trading or you have been trading for 100 years. Even after 100 years of successful trading, you can wipe out a billion dollar account in one day, if you ignore your rules.
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margin-left: 10px;” dir=”ltr”>e mentioned three reasons for forex traders failure so far: 1. Knowledge Deficiency, 2. Experience Deficiency and 3. Over-confidence
margin-left: 10px;”>If you have not the chance to read the previous tips of the day, please take a look.
margin-left: 10px;”>The forth reason we want to discuss today is having no trading system. When you sit at the computer and you want to trade, you have to know what you should look for and what you should wait for to take a position. You should have a system that you have already spent a lot of time on it and you have become expert and experienced enough in using it. You know its signals and when you look at the chart, you should know that a trade setup is on the way and you know when it is the right time to enter and exit.
margin-left: 10px;”>It may take a long time for the new traders to find a good system that they like to work with it. Some are lucky enough to become familiar with the foundation of trading which is technical analysis and unfortunately some people waste a lot of time to find a good system and most of them give up, while walking on this way. I have seen some people who still look for a new system everyday after so many years of trading. They still don’t know what kind of trader they like to be: a swing trader, an intraday trader or a scalper.
margin-left: 10px;”>For the beginners, intraday trading and scalping are too hard to practice. Scalping is not a good trading way at all and I have never seen any trader who has been successful, consistently with this trading method. It needs a lot of experience, knowledge and also speed.
margin-left: 10px;”>Intraday trading is also hard for the beginners because it is too hard for them to sit at the computer for several hours per day continuously. It is also hard to concentrate. The best solution for the beginners is, working with long time frames like daily (4hrs minimum) and trading through technical analysis of the price chart. This is the closest way that makes them a profitable trader within the shortest time.
margin-left: 10px;”>However, some people always think that there is a better and faster way and so they waste a lot of time for finding those ways and unfortunately they lose a lot of money before they find the right way or before they give up. Take the advantage of others’ experiences and do not waste your time and money. Do not follow the way that many others have already followed and failed.
margin-left: 10px;” dir=”ltr”>Wise learns from the others experiences. Fool learns from his own - if he learns at all.
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margin-left: 10px;” dir=”ltr”>We mentioned three reasons for forex traders failure so far: 1. Knowledge Deficiency, 2. Experience Deficiency, 3. Over-confidence and 4. having no trading system
margin-left: 10px;”>If you have not the chance to read the previous tips of the day, please take a look.
margin-left: 10px;”>The fifth reason we want to discuss today is, being too smart.
margin-left: 10px;”>Forex is not the first business we have started. Most of us, already have some other businesses. Most of us are educated people who had to be so precise and strict in our previous professions. When we start forex trading, we bring all we have learned from our previous business to our forex trading business, but we don’t know some of the things we have learned before, not only don’t help in forex, but they can make problems.
margin-left: 10px;”>We have learned to be smart. To make an new change everyday. To make something new and to find a new approach and method everyday. We have learned not to make any mistake. For some of us, with the previous business we had, the first mistake can be the last one.
margin-left: 10px;”>So we have all of this in our minds and then we start forex trading. We want to be the best trader of the world in the shortest time. We want to find a better trading method and system everyday. We want not to make any mistake. And so what will happen? Yes, we lose and lose and lose.
margin-left: 10px;” dir=”ltr”>We should know that forex is different. In forex, we should find a good system and use it. We should not look for a new system everyday. In forex, we make mistakes. This is normal. We should have our stop loss to take care of our mistakes. In forex, the first mistake is not the last one. In forex, a losing trade is just one trade among thousands of other trades we have already taken and we will take in future. When you have a system which is 80% successful, you should expect that 20% of the trades hit the stop loss, because 80% of the trades will hit the target.
margin-left: 10px;” dir=”ltr”>In forex trading, we should not see beyond obvious. There is a signal in front of our eyes and it is the only thing we should see. We should not see the future. When we are too smart, we are used to see the future.
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Hi Forexoma.
I like the direction that you are are taking Forexoma. Without a doubt, you are doing good. Over the last month, I have seen a great improvement in my trading with the analysis from you.
Thanks so much. I will soon be able to add more loans to the Forexoma Pips Kiva account because of you!
-Jim
Thanks Jim
Can you publish a list of the currency pairs you follow so that I can see if I have access to them from my broker. Also, can you tell us which broker you use for your trading accounts, and what charting package you use and the platform? what is your position on news and Do you ever account for news releases in your trading analysis? Thanks.
Hi George. We trade most currency pairs - including exotic pairs - so if you can think of it - good chance is that we trade it. We use the Metatrader charting package. Unfortunately we cannot recommend a specific broker - and we do not want to promote any specific broker at this time, this is why I do not want to post any names here. We have several brokers and are still testing several different ones. We do not trade on the news. Our strategy is very technical - purely mechanical based - whatever news comes out, will be reflected collectively in the price when the time comes. We will see the price and will trade it accordingly. Hope this answers your questions.
Regards,
Forexoma
Do you have a list of the pairs you analyze and I would like to know how you account for or trade around news releases in your trading plan. Thanks,
George
Hi Forexoma,
I must say that I discovered forex about a yearago and before we cross paths I got sucked into some mechanical system that does not really work. It was until I discovered your Weboma signals that I started to look at forex differently, I was under the opinion that I could get away easily with some pips and not lose much with these mechanical systems. You guys showed me the light and for that I am grateful, I am one of those who got burnt because I thought that I could scalp the market with precision, but I was wrong. I now fully understand that I must be patient and wait on the market as you guys always preach. I have learnt more about forex in the little time you started your Forexoma site than from the time I started forex education. I now understand that after a rally there is going to be a pull back and retest of support/resistance and wait for the signal to be fully formed. A BIG THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP AND PATIENCE.
LOVE AND RESPECT OR AS WE SAY IN JAMAICA…”BIG UP, YOU A THE BOSS”
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Jeremy
Hi Jeremy. We are very happy that you are learing alot
Forexoma
Thanks Jeremy
Forexoma,
I posted my comments and questions about 10 hours ago but did not show up here. Any technical problem perhaps happening? Thanks.
As usual, Both of you are great, and the greatest thing is your dedication of your competency and skills to help the world community. Keep doing good.
Cheers
Pria
Hi Pria,
Your first comment didn’t come through and even we have not received any email for it (because when someone posts any comment, we receive an email). When you submit a comment, it should be published right away. If not, you need to try again. Only comments that include any link will be hold automatically for moderation because we do not want to have any unsuitable link on the site.
Anyway! Thanks for your attentions and support AS USUAL
You nice people encourage us to sit at our keyboards with more energy everyday.
Best regards,
Forexoma
Hi Forexoma,
My questions were:
1. When You said that we are waiting for A SELL SIGNAL TO GO SHORT in your analysis, what kind of price action do U expect so that you will go short? In other words, what type of candle formation do you expect to come up so that you will conclude that we may go short now?
2. I am using IBFX platform while your analysis is based on the charts given by FxPro. I observed that when the 4-Hour candle in IBFX has broken out the support trendline and the candle closed below the trendline, it has not done so in FxPro. So, which one is correct to conclude that we can go short or not. For example, AUDUSD and GBPUSD that we took the position yesterday. I took short position earlier than you did yesterday. I did watch both of the charts, and I found the 4H candle in Fxpro did not breakout yet and was underway while IBFX did breakout and closed below the trendline.
Thanks much Brother Forexoma. Both of are very great helping us here. Look forward to your explanantion as usual.
Thanks Much
Pria
Hi Forexoma,
At the moment because of my circumstances I cannot take all your trades, which is rather frustrating. More importantly though I am able to read and study your market analysis and learn to wait - this part is not so easy.
I enjoy reading your tips and the latest comment that Forex trading is not a lottery and is “trading” was very appropriate.
I must say I am pleased that I discovered your Weboma site before and that you are now giving us this opportunity to progress at forex trading.
Kel
Hi Kel. We are happy that you are pleased to have discovered the site. We will keep providing the education. Yes, learning to wait and patience is not easy. I beleive lack of patience is the # 1 reason why traders fail. The fact that you know this already makes yu ahead of the game.
Word to the wise. When someone gives you good advice as Forexoma does you should adhere to it. I loaded $13500 into my account and now Im at $279 because of every mistake hes listed on here. Im 21 years old and worked very hard for that money. Its been about 2 months total since i first loaded my account and I had my account as high as $20k when I stuck to good money mangaement ( No more then 6 percent account risk per trade) . I met with some sucess and became overconfident and wanted to multiply my money much faster so i increased my trade sizes drastically and traded without waiting for the “Signal” . Now I write to you an Angry but wiser/humbled individual. Adhere to the Rules or Lose.
With Regard:
Erik
P.S. ILL BE BACK
Hi Erik, yes, adhering to the rules and being patient is what makes a trader successful in the end. Sorry to hear about your old trading account. Believe me - I have been there, alot of traders have at some point in their trading careers.
I see that you have learned the most important lesson - now you know what works, and what you have to do to make it. Don’t give up - never give up
There were times in the past - in the beginning of it all - where I felt that I wanted to give up - today I know that sticking with it was the best decision I have ever made.
hi again,
somehow im able to download all the file.
but the multiple time frame below doesnt appear red/blue for bearish and bullish..
it appear only in 1 color purple in my case..how can i solve this..
thanks
I answered you here: http://www.forexoma.com/have-all-timeframes-on-one-single-chart-in-your-metatrader-platform-mt4/#comments
Please submit your comments to related article.
Like Erik above, I’m new to trading. After losing half my capital to impulsive trading, I’m ready to stop and listen. I traded on two signals from Forexoma this week, first was a nice win and second (GBP/USD) lost very early this morning. Time difference and my body can’t stay up late meant I missed the ‘close at break-even’ instruction. But I’m not upset at all, because now I am very aware that it’s not just opening trades, but continue to analyze them and learn when to close out a position early if the situation calls for it. Some might call it an expensive lesson, but I learn even something from a loss and that has a value of its own. I will stay a happy, if more patient, customer
well i think you are doing a great job and at this time of the year i am still wondering if the service you are givin´ to the members i mean the private members is still valid to to bet at the betonmarkets.com.
could you tell me something about it ?
you said that you don´t moderate the comments
if you don publish this comment i can think something else
juan contreras
anyway i am planning to join your service very sonn
Hi Juan,
I don’t understand what do you mean by “is still valid …”. We analyze several currency pairs everyday and show their direction to our members. They can use the information we give them to trade. I know nothing about betonmarkets.com but if our analysis can be used to make money through it, why not? Our members can use it.
Best regards,
Forexoma
Hi Forexoma,
I can not agree with all your reasoning at the beginning of this article. At the end of the day, you are selling forex signal. Just by saying “People know us”, ” We are good, just see our performance”, … does not make me or many people like me feel good about this. There need to be a solid basis for anything someone says. I have a suggestion, which most likely you won’t pay attention since you may think it would affect your signal selling business. I suggest you publish only one real-time signal per week. Just ONE. You are analyzing many currencies and publish many signals to your members. but you can publish ONLY one real-time (no-delay) signal, so that it can be served as a system trial for people like me. I would be happy to get your paid service after I do some research on my own and feel confident about it. There is no way to get a taste of the service you are providing by just reading your articles talking about your own service or whoever write something on this website. I don’t think publishing one no-delay signal per week or every other week would hurt your signal selling business or is unfair to people who paid for all your signals. Sorry if I look very conservative, but you should have got my point. Please do not refer me to other people’s comments about your service since I have already seen them.
Thanks.
Hello My Friend
Thanks for your comment.
First of all, you didn’t have to submit a comment anonymously. We will not feel offended to hear any objection or criticism and we will not consider it in our future relations with our clients.
We will think about your suggestion. It looks like a good idea. Maybe we will have more information for Forexoma free users.
Best regards,
Forexoma
The anonymous comment does make a valid point but the risk about posting a live trade every week or so would be that they don’t give a true picture of your service or results. Perhaps you should post the results weekly, maybe delayed by a week or two. If this contained the date and time of the signal and any close or amend instructions then people could see the overall result, and back check for themselves.
What the poster doesn’t understand is the detail you have in the analysis which helps subscribers to plan and execute our own trades. Trades which you might not choose to take or recommend but which the individual may take based upon their own judgement.
I guess you guys will have to accept that a lot of people are not interested in learning this for themselves. Some just want Buy/Sell signals to make what they see as easy money.
Personally, I thank you again for helping my pot grow CONSISTENTLY since your service started, and for what I have learned from you both.
MIchael
Hi Michael,
Unfortunately it is a little hard to understand our service. There are two types of signals and positions here. First, those that we email our users and seconds those that we show on the charts. The trade setups that we email our users have to be based on a well-defined system which is our SRB system or DC system. There are a lot of other trade setups that we have show on the charts. Sometimes they have a little more risk and so we mentioned that they are for risk taking traders. We do not email those trade setups because it can problems for newbies traders. For example when we are waiting for a support breakdown to go short, but it bounces up as soon as it touches the support line. Risk takers take a long position and make money. We have those kinds of traders among our members. They make over 1000 pips per week just by following the magenta lines we draw on the charts.
Now the question is, which of these signals should be published to show our performance? The trade setups we email our the ones we don’t email but we show on the charts. Maybe both!
The problem is if we have both, it may look exaggerating and then we will have to answer how and why. We are just avoiding having headaches and arguments because we really don’t care how people think about the program.
We have some beginner to intermediate traders who use our analysis in the best way. They follow the lines and signs and make 1000s pips every week. These users don’t care when one of the signals we email, just hit the stop loss because they have already made a lot of profit. But there are also some other users who just sit and wait for the emails to arrive. They take the positions blindly while they have not already taken the advantage of the other opportunities. Then, when one of the positions we email, goes again them or hits the stop loss (which is normal), they start yelling.
Well! it looks a little complicated now. We have to think about it
Here is a link for you to follow:
http://www.forexoma.com/what-kind-of-signals-and-forex-trade-setups-we-have-for-our-members-and-how-our-members-can-take-the-advantage-of-our-signals-and-analysis/
Hi Forexoma,
Thank you for your great articles (particularly this week), I will be re-reading them again and again. The GBPJPY one I found very interesting today in the Weekly, but my brain will need to some more time to digest and answer the questions you posed. I also appreciate and value, you sharing your experience of Forex with a newbie like me, the insight you give, I am sure is built on years of experience. The articles and analysis I can also imagine are quite time consuming to produce, so thanks for making them so detailed I look forward to the next one already.
Kevin
(still a newbie, but wiser now compared to a few weeks ago)
Hi Kevin. We are glad you are enjoying the articles. Yes, the analysis and the article on GBPJPY was very indepth this week. We will keep providing the education and hopefully adding more and more articles. We are also making some eBooks right now.
Forexoma
Great work and Idea if you plan to develop an E-BOOK so that we have a reference to read, and re-read it.
Cheers
Pria
I would like to second Kevin’s comment. The GJ analysis is outstanding!
Thanks my friend