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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:45 pm 
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Hi Vahid, I wanted to share some thoughts with you and the other members on the service that you provide here at FLMA.
For the first time since joining your service back in november of last year I am feeling a little bit frustrated. The quality of your analysis is and remains quite good, but because you are no longer giving us buy and sell signals as you previously did there are times when I am not sure if I should take the signal when the support/resistance line is broken. In the past two to three weeks you have sent messages via email and sms of forming trade setups, but you did not follow through and send an email or sms when the trade was actually formed eg.the eurousd sell signal yesterday. For me I am thus left unsure as to whether or not to take this signal(for the record I did take the euro sell signal,ended up stopped out at breakeven).
Going forward,as I do intend to continue subscribing to your service, I would like to know what I can expect? Could you for example give us a clear indication in your video analysis of what you consider a strong signal and plan to take yourself? Maybe you should go back to using the email and sms only for the formed trade setups that you recommend for us to take, somewhat like what you did up to the end of december of last year before the subsequent changes in january - but without the actual buy/sell feature that you do not like.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:08 pm 
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Dear Owen,
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Thanks for your comment.

I report all the forming trade setups, but I also mention in the videos that if a signal is a strong signal or not and what risks it has. In most cases I also mention that if I will take the position or I prefer to wait for another signal.

In the past, all signals were used to be emailed and so subscribers would take all of them just because it was a BUY or SELL signal. After a while I came to this conclusion that giving rough BUY/SELL signals is completely wrong technically, because each and every trade setup has a different level of risk. It is only the trader who should decide if he wants to take a position or not and this can be done by watching the videos and knowing the risk of each trade.

Regarding the EUR-USD, as you know I explained about it in the videos but when the sell signal (support breakout) formed I did not email you whereas I do this with the other trade setups. In these cases, maybe the trade setup is not strong enough or there is a stronger and better trade setup with another currency pair.

By the way, I will do my best to make the videos and trade setups clearer, so it will be easier for you to decide.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:48 pm 
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Vahid,

I was suprised you emailed the current USD/CHF trade. The same set up was on EUR/USD only opposite plus it showed convergence on both MACD and RSI. That kept me out of the trade. Look how much I have learned. :o

I must say it is a bit confusing why sometimes emails are sent on trade set ups and sometimes not. They always say a forming trade set up but we already knew that if we watch your videos. I believe one would reason an email would signify a better trade set up but maybe that is wrong reasoning. If that is wrong reasoning I see know point in emailing any trade set ups because we watch and learn from the videos which are always excellent.

Not being critical because you know I think highly of you and you have taught me so much but there must be many members that think the way I am thinking. Just trying to help.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:11 pm 
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chillydog wrote:
Vahid,

I was suprised you emailed the current USD/CHF trade. The same set up was on EUR/USD only opposite plus it showed convergence on both MACD and RSI. That kept me out of the trade. Look how much I have learned. :o

I must say it is a bit confusing why sometimes emails are sent on trade set ups and sometimes not. They always say a forming trade set up but we already knew that if we watch your videos. I believe one would reason an email would signify a better trade set up but maybe that is wrong reasoning. If that is wrong reasoning I see know point in emailing any trade set ups because we watch and learn from the videos which are always excellent.

Not being critical because you know I think highly of you and you have taught me so much but there must be many members that think the way I am thinking. Just trying to help.

Bill


Dear Bill,
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Thank you for your comment and please don't be afraid of criticizing me. I don't mind and I do respect the subscribers comments and criticism, specially when it is by dear friends like you.

You are right about the USDCHF. A buy signal was forming above the support line, but the "Existing Home Sales" that was not better than expectation made it go down. The current candle can still go up and close above the support line. In one of my recent videos I had explained that I do not trade using these kinds of trade setups, but it is the favoriate trade setup for some traders. We had a buy signal on EURUSD but as I explained on the video I had yesterday, I did not want to take it because it had no support from the daily chart.

I will be more thankful if you explain more how the signal emails should be to prevent any confusion by the subscribers. I will follow your advice. This is what I like to hear from the other members too.

Thanks to you again and thanks to all the Forexoma members and users.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:28 pm 
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Vahid wrote:
chillydog wrote:
Vahid,

I was suprised you emailed the current USD/CHF trade. The same set up was on EUR/USD only opposite plus it showed convergence on both MACD and RSI. That kept me out of the trade. Look how much I have learned. :o

I must say it is a bit confusing why sometimes emails are sent on trade set ups and sometimes not. They always say a forming trade set up but we already knew that if we watch your videos. I believe one would reason an email would signify a better trade set up but maybe that is wrong reasoning. If that is wrong reasoning I see know point in emailing any trade set ups because we watch and learn from the videos which are always excellent.

Not being critical because you know I think highly of you and you have taught me so much but there must be many members that think the way I am thinking. Just trying to help.

Bill


Dear Bill,
Hi

Thank you for your comment and please don't be afraid of criticizing me. I don't mind and I do respect the subscribers comments and criticism, specially when it is by dear friends like you.

You are right about the USDCHF. A buy signal was forming above the support line, but the "Existing Home Sales" that was not better than expectation made it go down. The current candle can still go up and close above the support line. In one of my recent videos I had explained that I do not trade using these kinds of trade setups, but it is the favoriate trade setup for some traders. We had a buy signal on EURUSD but as I explained on the video I had yesterday, I did not want to take it because it had no support from the daily chart.

I will be more thankful if you explain more how the signal emails should be to prevent any confusion by the subscribers. I will follow your advice. This is what I like to hear from the other members too.

Thanks to you again and thanks to all the Forexoma members and users.



It seems to me an email should be sent on all trade set-ups or no emails should be sent at all. One tends to think when an email is sent the trade set up has higher probability of being a winner. You have even said a couple of times in your videos "you notice I did not send an email on this setup because of "whatever the reason"" This leads one to believe when an email is sent it is a "better" trade setup. Hope this makes sense.

Bill


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:37 pm 
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chillydog wrote:
It seems to me an email should be sent on all trade set-ups or no emails should be sent at all. One tends to think when an email is sent the trade set up has higher probability of being a winner. You have even said a couple of times in your videos "you notice I did not send an email on this setup because of "whatever the reason"" This leads one to believe when an email is sent it is a "better" trade setup. Hope this makes sense.

Bill


Yes, you are absolutely right. I will do as you say. Please let me know then if it is what it has to be and I am on the right track or not.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:47 pm 
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Vahid wrote:
chillydog wrote:
It seems to me an email should be sent on all trade set-ups or no emails should be sent at all. One tends to think when an email is sent the trade set up has higher probability of being a winner. You have even said a couple of times in your videos "you notice I did not send an email on this setup because of "whatever the reason"" This leads one to believe when an email is sent it is a "better" trade setup. Hope this makes sense.

Bill


Yes, you are absolutely right. I will do as you say. Please let me know then if it is what it has to be and I am on the right track or not.


I think you see my point. Personaly I pay no attention to your emails (no disrespect) because I watch all your videos (and we are alerted each time one is released) and I decide to take a trade or not based on them, I do not need an email. But some people must think when they get an email on a trade setup and not on all trade setups this must be a "better" opportunity. If you want to send emails at all it probably should just say "new video analysis released".

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:51 pm 
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chillydog wrote:
Vahid wrote:
chillydog wrote:
It seems to me an email should be sent on all trade set-ups or no emails should be sent at all. One tends to think when an email is sent the trade set up has higher probability of being a winner. You have even said a couple of times in your videos "you notice I did not send an email on this setup because of "whatever the reason"" This leads one to believe when an email is sent it is a "better" trade setup. Hope this makes sense.

Bill


Yes, you are absolutely right. I will do as you say. Please let me know then if it is what it has to be and I am on the right track or not.


I think you see my point. Personaly I pay no attention to your emails (no disrespect) because I watch all your videos (and we are alerted each time one is released) and I decide to take a trade or not based on them, I do not need an email. But some people must think when they get an email on a trade setup and not on all trade setups this must be a "better" opportunity. If you want to send emails at all it probably should just say "new video analysis released".

Bill


oh ok! That is a good idea. I will do it. Thanks again Bill :)

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:58 pm 
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Hello Dear All,

First of all thank you owenglee and Bill for the discussion. You both have rised very important points.
Vahid, your videos are a constant source of experience and trading knowledge one needs, and every one of them I watch at least twice, make notes and store to come back later. They are really helping me a lot.
However I can understand where owenglee's frustration maybe coming from.
This week for instance I have completely missed CADCHF short trade setup which was probably the best available in this week (could give more than 1:1 RR) as I couldn't sieve it of efectivly from other multiple signals. Please don't get me wrong Vahid I'm not moaning and demanding BUY/SELL signals to be spoon fed again. I'm happy with the risk the market has and take it.
To my mind what is needed are: clear email system and a clear emphasis in each of the video on the over all quality of the given setup.
I also got confused on many occassions because of the emails and sms messages. I see where Bill is taking his point from cause I also interpreted it in the way: "got sms and email - this must be better signal than the other let's take this one".
Maybe I will come with a little tweak to Bill's proposal. The idea of sending a simple email notification on all upcoming video analysis is very good and clears lots of doubts.
To satisfy all parts however the tweak would be to send sms message only for the best setups contained in the videos (lets name them AAA+) / the ones which You Vahid are going to take yourself. SMS gets probably quicker and not everybody here can have smartphones which can receive emails as "push" type of service (arriving the same way as sms without opening email box first)
Some people may oppose this as I'm advocating mockingbird behaviour but I see it differently. For me there is nothing wrong following the best setups of our teacher and learning on other setups and making informed decissions. The learning process is not broken by that in my opinion.One still has to setup its targets and decide which setup will be taken.
At the end of the day, some of the "not so good" setups may still bring nice profits - see example of today's long EURUSD which could easily hit 1:1 and was quite risky, that is just market and I don't mind. I don't mind even if AAA+ turns into a loss.It will happen many times.So be it. 8-)
This week was quite different cause month end flows were pretty violent and trade setups were invalidated by this, also fundamental news were in majority worse then expected, none of us have any infulence on it. So the trading conditions were pretty tough anyway. Hope my view won't disturb anybody and I'm ready for an open discussion before we seal the deal. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:39 pm 
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I have been following Vahid's service religously since July and I would venture to say I enter the same (or close to the same) trades as Vahid. Why? I learned from him, did not try to reinvent the wheel. Obviously he knows what he is doing so if you can emulate him you will do quite well. On that note, I learned even more and quicker these past couple of months after he quit sending the buy/sell signals. Threw away the crutches. Believe me, I know it is nice to receive a successful buy/sell signal but it is also disappointing and upsetting to receive a loser even though we all know it is going to happen. You receive 3 or 4 winning buy signals in a week and you will convince yourself that you are a good trader and it will end up biting back hard in the future. I make a consistent profit every week for some time now and this past week has been one of my best. I am not saying this to brag but to tell you learning to trade is the key, not copying a signal. School of hard knocks has always been the best at anything but if you follow Vahid's guidance the "knocks" will be minimal.

My piece of advice on trading. Wait on a MACD convergence/divergence and buy/sell on the trendline breakout.

Good luck everyone.

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Hi Bill,
Good to hear about your success Bill and I hope thanks to Vahid's service I will be able to become independent and successful as well some day as you and Vahid.
I wasn't going to ask for re-starting BUY/SELL signals at all, just little more clarification in each video on signal quality not a send signals per se and less confussion with emails. On that note I can't agree more - each video update comes with email notification and that's all.
On the other hand:
I also can't see the reason why the best signals can't be highlighted, if you want to sieve the setups you must know what constitutes the best. Also not all the best setups will be the one which win 100%.Besides there are many other signals which may higher risk but still will be taken. I know what was the experience with buy/sell signals in the past. I realise that now asking even about the highlighting AAA+ setups can bring back moaners and complainants pestering Vahid why this "best" signal failed. One thing is certain for me now I will stay signed to the service cause its educational quality and content.
I'm really glad that you are doing so good and you advanced in your trading. However bear in mind that everybody has a different learning curve, other people joined the service much later than you, so they will need more guidance as well. Ok I know not everybody will be a succesful trader and I also may end up giving up who knows but at least would like to have the best chance to learn by observing masters :P

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First of all, I am not near as knowledgeable on this subject as Vahid. The simple fact is "THE MARKET CAN DO ANYTHING AT ANYTIME". So there is no way on earth for anyone to say what is the best trade setup. Like Vahid says, experience is the best teacher. This crazy ass game is not for everybody and you are correct everyone is on a different learning curve.
However, in my opinion this is the best place for one to be if they want to learn this Forex game. Anyone can learn so much from all of the information on this sight and getting to watch Vahid analyze the market is priceless. I guess i am turning into Trader Joe in saying he is helping no one when he tells them when to enter and exit the market. Vahid will be the first one to tell you that once you learn to trade your own style you may very well turn out to be a better trader than Vahid. Wouldn't that be nice? 8-)


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I do want to thank Vahid for his response, and also Bill and Jarek for sharing their views on the above captioned topic. Let me say up front that I watch all the videos religiously and find them most helpful. Like Jarek I would personally prefer if Vahid used the sms and the email for the formed trade setups only- preferably the ones that he would take himself. Thanks guys.

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pakiestra wrote:
Hello Dear All,

First of all thank you owenglee and Bill for the discussion. You both have rised very important points.
Vahid, your videos are a constant source of experience and trading knowledge one needs, and every one of them I watch at least twice, make notes and store to come back later. They are really helping me a lot.
However I can understand where owenglee's frustration maybe coming from.
This week for instance I have completely missed CADCHF short trade setup which was probably the best available in this week (could give more than 1:1 RR) as I couldn't sieve it of efectivly from other multiple signals. Please don't get me wrong Vahid I'm not moaning and demanding BUY/SELL signals to be spoon fed again. I'm happy with the risk the market has and take it.
To my mind what is needed are: clear email system and a clear emphasis in each of the video on the over all quality of the given setup.
I also got confused on many occassions because of the emails and sms messages. I see where Bill is taking his point from cause I also interpreted it in the way: "got sms and email - this must be better signal than the other let's take this one".
Maybe I will come with a little tweak to Bill's proposal. The idea of sending a simple email notification on all upcoming video analysis is very good and clears lots of doubts.
To satisfy all parts however the tweak would be to send sms message only for the best setups contained in the videos (lets name them AAA+) / the ones which You Vahid are going to take yourself. SMS gets probably quicker and not everybody here can have smartphones which can receive emails as "push" type of service (arriving the same way as sms without opening email box first)
Some people may oppose this as I'm advocating mockingbird behaviour but I see it differently. For me there is nothing wrong following the best setups of our teacher and learning on other setups and making informed decissions. The learning process is not broken by that in my opinion.One still has to setup its targets and decide which setup will be taken.
At the end of the day, some of the "not so good" setups may still bring nice profits - see example of today's long EURUSD which could easily hit 1:1 and was quite risky, that is just market and I don't mind. I don't mind even if AAA+ turns into a loss.It will happen many times.So be it. 8-)
This week was quite different cause month end flows were pretty violent and trade setups were invalidated by this, also fundamental news were in majority worse then expected, none of us have any infulence on it. So the trading conditions were pretty tough anyway. Hope my view won't disturb anybody and I'm ready for an open discussion before we seal the deal. :mrgreen:


Hi Jarek,

Thanks for your attentions.

I will follow your advice and suggestions.

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chillydog wrote:
First of all, I am not near as knowledgeable on this subject as Vahid. The simple fact is "THE MARKET CAN DO ANYTHING AT ANYTIME". So there is no way on earth for anyone to say what is the best trade setup. Like Vahid says, experience is the best teacher. This crazy ass game is not for everybody and you are correct everyone is on a different learning curve.
However, in my opinion this is the best place for one to be if they want to learn this Forex game. Anyone can learn so much from all of the information on this sight and getting to watch Vahid analyze the market is priceless. I guess i am turning into Trader Joe in saying he is helping no one when he tells them when to enter and exit the market. Vahid will be the first one to tell you that once you learn to trade your own style you may very well turn out to be a better trader than Vahid. Wouldn't that be nice? 8-)


Thank you Bill :)

You are so nice.

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owenglee wrote:
I do want to thank Vahid for his response, and also Bill and Jarek for sharing their views on the above captioned topic. Let me say up front that I watch all the videos religiously and find them most helpful. Like Jarek I would personally prefer if Vahid used the sms and the email for the formed trade setups only- preferably the ones that he would take himself. Thanks guys.

Owen.


You are welcome Owen :)

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