I Need Your Opinion TOO

hum88 · **Joined:** Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:09 am **Posts:** 27

Vahid wrote:

Alps007 wrote:

Hi Vahid,

I agree with the above comments that you shouldn't have to put up with unreasonable customers.

I must say though that I really like your signals. I work very long hours and therefore it's hard for me to regularly read the FLMA report when its released and focus on set ups. I normally read the report when I go home from work as my boss is really strict.

Whenver my phone bleeps with a signal message I quikcly log on to my brokers site place the trade with good money management and then go back to work. It has worked well for me.

Some may now classify me as only a signal seeker. Well thats not entirely true as I try to do my best to learn when I go home from work.
I am not one for many signals or few signals. I have full faith in your ability and know that you have lived by your rules and standards when making the decision on sending the signals.

I do realise that its not a perfect world and the best of traders have losing trades too and the best of horses loses races too and the best of sportsmen and women lose matches too. I think some of these demanding customers you have need to understand this and they need to think long term and stop getting all freaked out over one or two losing trades.

I hope you will just follow your heart and do what you believe is right and not allow impatient bad attitude customers take advantage of your kindness and generosity.

Alpesh

Hi Alpesh,

I know what you mean. We have some clients like you. They work full time and they still like to take the positions while a trade setup forms. There is nothing wrong with this. I was a part time trader for such a long time too. The problem is something that Joe says about the risk level of each trade is absolutely true. You can never find two trade setups with the same risk and reward potential. This is where the personal decision comes. While I may like to take a position that has a higher risk, you may not like it. So someone has to inform you that how risky a signal is. But unfortunately there is no way to measure the risk of a position. So when I send you a signal and you are at work, I can not tell you how risky the position that you are taking is, because you can not read the analysis and you can not watch the video. What Joe is trying to say is that subscribers should not trade like that.

USD-JPY is a good example that Joe also used it. We had a buy signal on the weekly chart which is still strong because the current weekly candle is not closed yet. At the same time we had a buy signal on 4hrs chart, but we also had a MACD Divergence. On one of the videos, I mentioned all of these things. As you saw, market followed the MACD Divergence and broke below the support line. If we had taken a long position based on the weekly signal and the buy signal we had above the uptrend support line on the 4hrs chart, our stop loss would be triggered. If we had rushed and took a short position because of the MACD Divergence, it would work. However, there are also many other cases the there is a MACD Divergence, but market doesn't go down and it follows the bigger time frames direction.

When it comes to this stage, it is all the matter of taking the risk and making the final decision. This is something that you have to do and nobody should do it for the others.

Something that Joe says is absolutely true. I should show you the forming trade setup and also I should mention the risks that each position may have. Then you should decide on your own. But when I say "Buy USD-JPY", you buy while you are not aware of the risks.

hi Vahid,

I have learned more from these few days video compared to the past two months. I have a suggestion, if it does not take much of your time, to include in each signal a column for potential risks for example MACD divergence/convergence, against trend in bigger timeframe (daily, weekly and/or monthly), potential nearest resistant level etc. These will help a lot in decision making whether to take the trade for newbie and those for are not able to watch the video on time.

Thank you
hum

Forexoma · **Joined:** Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:07 pm **Posts:** 1250

hum88 wrote:

hi Vahid,

I have learned more from these few days video compared to the past two months. I have a suggestion, if it does not take much of your time, to include in each signal a column for potential risks for example MACD divergence/convergence, against trend in bigger timeframe (daily, weekly and/or monthly), potential nearest resistant level etc. These will help a lot in decision making whether to take the trade for newbie and those for are not able to watch the video on time.

Thank you
hum

Hi Hum,

Thank you.

Sure! I will do that, but I have to figure out how to express it that helps the members in the best way. I will do it definitely. Thanks for the suggestion.

vincentws · **Joined:** Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:38 pm **Posts:** 174

Hi Vahid,

I have been spending this evening catching up on the videos. I know you are in a decision stage as to how best to serve the members. Whatever you decide, I hope you keep the video aspect. It is excellent and you are able to express so much more than in the writing. The videos truly make it "Live Analysis". I trust you will make the right decisions overall.

Stay Strong

Vincent

Forexoma · **Joined:** Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:07 pm **Posts:** 1250

vincentws wrote:

Hi Vahid,

I have been spending this evening catching up on the videos. I know you are in a decision stage as to how best to serve the members. Whatever you decide, I hope you keep the video aspect. It is excellent and you are able to express so much more than in the writing. The videos truly make it "Live Analysis". I trust you will make the right decisions overall.

Stay Strong

Vincent

Hi Vincent,

Thanks

The videos will be continued. Changes will be made on the other parts of the program.

traderany · **Posted:** Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:00 am

Hi,

I see that this discussion has become a crusade against these of members who have their own opinion as me. There are many members on this forum as Keith, Michael .. who if are satisfied they write that they are satisfied and if they are not satisfied they write they are not satisfied. But there are here members (they usually trade on their demo accounts and do nothing about real trading) for whom there is no difference whether they make "money" or not. They say they are here to learn. I think that they are here to support the censorship, they want this forum to be censored and they want we wrote only in superlatives about FLMA.
Vahid - you love as members admire you (who doesn`t?) but you hate as members (as me) criticize you (who hates not?). Show me a forum and I will go and extol your FLMA. If my criticism is unfair - sorry.

I am here and only I take the responsibility for my trading, no you Vahid, I know.
If I recognize that FLMA is not for me I will cancel my membership.

vincentws · **Joined:** Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:38 pm **Posts:** 174

Hi Any,

I wouldn't take it personal. The overall purpose and spirit of this thread is to find the right balance. I did not sense any crusade against you, and found your comments very straightforward and honest. There was a bit of debate between you and Jarek, but I found that rather small.

Your opinions are just as valuable as the others. Unless there is some under the table dealings going on, creating special and partial treatment to some members over others, each member has an equal voice. Your opinion is your opinion and carries the same weight as any other. Stand your ground with conviction.

I am not speaking as an FLMA surrogate, but just as one member to another. I am sure there was no intent anywhere to "crusade" against you. Joe Trader stirred up a good and hot topic and got the natives restless. He shook the trees and the birds went flying.

Dust yourself off and keep moving forward. Ignore that which would try and unsettle your peace.

Stay Strong Any,

Vincent

alan99 · **Posted:** Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:59 pm

owenglee wrote:

Vahid,you are the expert here and as such it is ultimately up to you to decide where you want to take this company of yours. I personally like the idea of a few more signals per week, but only if the quality of the signals are consistent with the high standards that you have already established.I like the forexoma site as it is truly an earn while you learn program. As a relatively new trader I do enjoy and appreciate both the "earn" and the "learn" aspect of your service. In the end you will have to do what you think is best for you and your company.

Owen.

Hi Vahid

I agree with Owen , learn with the analysis and earn with the signals.

Also 2 other points.

As someone else has suggested. Could you grade the signals like you used to so people may decide only to take the strongest ones and avoid overtrading.

Maybe you could only put the trading signals in a seperate area where they cannot be seen directly. Traders will need to click on something or have another password to see the setups and grade of signals. So traders can see your analyses and charts and make they own trading decisions based on your coaching. But just before "pulling the trigger" they can check any trade they have decided to take with your signal in the "hidden" area. Sure, some will just go straight to the special signal area , but others can check their trade setups following your analysis and that way learn .

Regards

Alan

traderany · **Posted:** Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:04 pm

vincentws wrote:

Hi Any,

I wouldn't take it personal. The overall purpose and spirit of this thread is to find the right balance. I did not sense any crusade against you, and found your comments very straightforward and honest. There was a bit of debate between you and Jarek, but I found that rather small.

Your opinions are just as valuable as the others. Unless there is some under the table dealings going on, creating special and partial treatment to some members over others, each member has an equal voice. Your opinion is your opinion and carries the same weight as any other. Stand your ground with conviction.

I am not speaking as an FLMA surrogate, but just as one member to another. I am sure there was no intent anywhere to "crusade" against you. Joe Trader stirred up a good and hot topic and got the natives restless. He shook the trees and the birds went flying.

Dust yourself off and keep moving forward. Ignore that which would try and unsettle your peace.

Stay Strong Any,

Vincent

Hi Vincent,

Thanks for your comments and for your advice. You are wright.

I have written several dozen posts on this forum and you will not find even one where I criticized someone`s opinion.
I have never done it. (except for Vahid, but such is his job here). If I answered someone`s topic or post I only tried to help if I could or I enclosed something. But if someone`s role here is to be Sherlock Holmes or to read between the lines is better not to discuss on this forum.

Forexoma · **Joined:** Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:07 pm **Posts:** 1250

traderany wrote:

Hi,

I see that this discussion has become a crusade against these of members who have their own opinion as me. There are many members on this forum as Keith, Michael .. who if are satisfied they write that they are satisfied and if they are not satisfied they write they are not satisfied. But there are here members (they usually trade on their demo accounts and do nothing about real trading) for whom there is no difference whether they make "money" or not. They say they are here to learn. I think that they are here to support the censorship, they want this forum to be censored and they want we wrote only in superlatives about FLMA.
Vahid - you love as members admire you (who doesn`t?) but you hate as members (as me) criticize you (who hates not?). Show me a forum and I will go and extol your FLMA. If my criticism is unfair - sorry.

I am here and only I take the responsibility for my trading, no you Vahid, I know.
If I recognize that FLMA is not for me I will cancel my membership.

Hi Any,

People are free to say anything they like here and I listen to all of them. I have nothing against those who criticize me as long as I feel that their criticism is to help the program, the members and also me. But some people insult or accuse and still call it criticism. FORTUNATELY, since having a forum on my forex website, we had only one case of such people.

I think you admit that I listen to everybody and I respect their idea. Have you ever seen any censorship here? Have you ever posted anything that has been deleted by me? I even tolerated the worst things against myself and I did not remove it from the site because I did not want people think that I am trying to hide the truth by deleting the posts. This is an example: vahid-is-a-fraud-213.html

Most other people who have a website like mine, do not even let the others post any comment and they avoid having a discussion board, but I love to have it because it is the main purpose of this website. I love this business because it makes me connected to people. I enjoy it when I do something that helps people. I stopped working with some people because they were against my ideas and they wanted to censor.

Any changes that I have made so far was because I wanted to help more. Some of them were wrong but you never know before you try. It is like a trading system that you have to try to know if it works or it is useless.

Now please do me a favor. Please tell me what are your objections and what should I do. It is ok if you like to cancel your membership. I will miss you here, but please let me know what wrong I am doing on your opinion and what should I do, before you go.

Thanks

Forexoma · **Joined:** Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:07 pm **Posts:** 1250

traderany wrote:

vincentws wrote:

Hi Any,

I wouldn't take it personal. The overall purpose and spirit of this thread is to find the right balance...

Hi Vincent,

Thanks for your comments and for your advice. You are wright.

I have written several dozen posts on this forum and you will not find even one where I criticized someone`s opinion.
I have never done it. (except for Vahid, but such is his job here). If I answered someone`s topic or post I only tried to help if I could or I enclosed something. But if someone`s role here is to be Sherlock Holmes or to read between the lines is better not to discuss on this forum.

Dear Any,

I am 100% sure that all of those who post here, including you, love to help. And I am 100% sure that if they see anything wrong from me, they do not hesitate to say. This is what I want from them. JoeTrader is one of the members who has no hesitation in criticizing me and he is one of my best friends that I know from so many years ago. The rest, including you, are also my friends. At least I have such a feeling about them. Like the members of a family. I don't think that anybody is trying to be Sherlock Holmes or to read between the lines, as you say.

So please forget and lets keep on working

chillydog · **Posted:** Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:32 pm

traderany wrote:

vincentws wrote:

Hi Any,

I wouldn't take it personal. The overall purpose and spirit of this thread is to find the right balance. I did not sense any crusade against you, and found your comments very straightforward and honest. There was a bit of debate between you and Jarek, but I found that rather small.

Your opinions are just as valuable as the others. Unless there is some under the table dealings going on, creating special and partial treatment to some members over others, each member has an equal voice. Your opinion is your opinion and carries the same weight as any other. Stand your ground with conviction.

I am not speaking as an FLMA surrogate, but just as one member to another. I am sure there was no intent anywhere to "crusade" against you. Joe Trader stirred up a good and hot topic and got the natives restless. He shook the trees and the birds went flying.

Dust yourself off and keep moving forward. Ignore that which would try and unsettle your peace.

Stay Strong Any,

Vincent

Hi Vincent,

Thanks for your comments and for your advice. You are wright.

I have written several dozen posts on this forum and you will not find even one where I criticized someone`s opinion.
I have never done it. (except for Vahid, but such is his job here). If I answered someone`s topic or post I only tried to help if I could or I enclosed something. But if someone`s role here is to be Sherlock Holmes or to read between the lines is better not to discuss on this forum.

Hey Any,

I have read this entire post and I cannot figure out what has pissed you off so much. Take a chill out pill or maybe go hug your wife.

Sincerely
Bill

traderany · **Posted:** Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:12 am

Vahid wrote:

traderany wrote:

vincentws wrote:

Hi Any,

I wouldn't take it personal. The overall purpose and spirit of this thread is to find the right balance...

Hi Vincent,

Thanks for your comments and for your advice. You are wright.

I have written several dozen posts on this forum and you will not find even one where I criticized someone`s opinion.
I have never done it. (except for Vahid, but such is his job here). If I answered someone`s topic or post I only tried to help if I could or I enclosed something. But if someone`s role here is to be Sherlock Holmes or to read between the lines is better not to discuss on this forum.

Dear Any,

I am 100% sure that all of those who post here, including you, love to help. And I am 100% sure that if they see anything wrong from me, they do not hesitate to say. This is what I want from them. JoeTrader is one of the members who has no hesitation in criticizing me and he is one of my best friends that I know from so many years ago. The rest, including you, are also my friends. At least I have such a feeling about them. Like the members of a family. I don't think that anybody is trying to be Sherlock Holmes or to read between the lines, as you say.

So please forget and lets keep on working

Hi Vahid,

Everything is O.K.
Have a nice weekend.

Forexoma · **Joined:** Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:07 pm **Posts:** 1250

traderany wrote:

Hi Vahid,

Everything is O.K.
Have a nice weekend.

Hi Any,

Glad to hear that

DrPal · **Posted:** Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:42 pm

Hi All

It is very sad that there are so many negative nasty people in the world.
I have been the subject of scammers, dishonest people, liars and ....just plain arseholes .. in the past.
I allow my instincts to dicriminate between the options.
So far Vahid; you have not done anything like this to me so I will support you to the hilt.
It is unfortunate that you have to waste your valuable time answering their questions.

Keep it up mate
all is good

Dave.
(ps. I dont post post much but when I do I'm serious.)

Forexoma · **Joined:** Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:07 pm **Posts:** 1250

DrPal wrote:

Hi All

It is very sad that there are so many negative nasty people in the world.
I have been the subject of scammers, dishonest people, liars and ....just plain arseholes .. in the past.
I allow my instincts to dicriminate between the options.
So far Vahid; you have not done anything like this to me so I will support you to the hilt.
It is unfortunate that you have to waste your valuable time answering their questions.

Keep it up mate
all is good

Dave.
(ps. I dont post post much but when I do I'm serious.)

Thank you Dave.

popinjay · **Joined:** Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:59 am **Posts:** 67

Hi Vahid
I have been away and not able to participate in thes discussion yet, but GREAT job on the video's! I think I can see by the numberous positive responces to them, that they are a fantastic addition. I am just starting to seriously go through them all right now to catch up.

There are many good points made by people in this thread for all arguements. You know what is best and how to enhance the learning process of the members, however one of the most difficult thinks for you must be the various levels of expertise of the members. We are all at different stages and I am sure you can tell that by the types of emails/PM's (or lackthereof) you receive from everyone.

I say just do what you feel is best. One things I would enjoy to learn is more about different systems (or different entry points because I believe most of the systems/entry points you will use are based on some sort of breakout)

Jaren

Forexoma · **Joined:** Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:07 pm **Posts:** 1250

popinjay wrote:

Hi Vahid
I have been away and not able to participate in thes discussion yet, but GREAT job on the video's! I think I can see by the numberous positive responces to them, that they are a fantastic addition. I am just starting to seriously go through them all right now to catch up.

There are many good points made by people in this thread for all arguements. You know what is best and how to enhance the learning process of the members, however one of the most difficult thinks for you must be the various levels of expertise of the members. We are all at different stages and I am sure you can tell that by the types of emails/PM's (or lackthereof) you receive from everyone.

I say just do what you feel is best. One things I would enjoy to learn is more about different systems (or different entry points because I believe most of the systems/entry points you will use are based on some sort of breakout)

Jaren

Hi Jaren,

Thanks for your participation.

Sure! I will do my best to cover more trading systems.

landocalrissian · **Joined:** Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:54 pm **Posts:** 24

chillydog wrote:

It's like a said before you are going to have more poor students than good ones. Vahid is being bombarded by the poor students I would guess. Vahid please do what makes you happy. No sense in you having undue stress over senseless expectations from senseless people.

Hello Mr. Chillydog, you have now gone to far away.
You keep just offending the "others".
You called ma a mouse, few post before. And I really don't give a damn.
Now you are calling other forums participant "senseless"
Who are you to be the patronizer of us all?
And the offender?
Please take a rest, switch your screen off of and take a vacation. You are probably spending too much time trading alone and forgetting how to live together.
You are not really adding 1 cent to this forum, with this kind of statement and actually, Vahid, a real gentlemen, is just not commenting, but I think he should.

chillydog · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:23 am

Mr. Lando,

Whatever you say is OK with me. Don't really know what you are getting at, seeing it has taken you 2 weeks to respond to the conversation that has upset you so much. Apples don't fall to far from the tree. :lol:

The DAWG!

Forexoma · **Joined:** Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:07 pm **Posts:** 1250

landocalrissian wrote:

chillydog wrote:

It's like a said before you are going to have more poor students than good ones. Vahid is being bombarded by the poor students I would guess. Vahid please do what makes you happy. No sense in you having undue stress over senseless expectations from senseless people.

Hello Mr. Chillydog, you have now gone to far away.
You keep just offending the "others".
You called ma a mouse, few post before. And I really don't give a damn.
Now you are calling other forums participant "senseless"
Who are you to be the patronizer of us all?
And the offender?
Please take a rest, switch your screen off of and take a vacation. You are probably spending too much time trading alone and forgetting how to live together.
You are not really adding 1 cent to this forum, with this kind of statement and actually, Vahid, a real gentlemen, is just not commenting, but I think he should.

Hello my friend,

If I want to be fair here, I must say that I do not think that Bill (Chillydog) is talking about this forum participants by saying "senseless". I really don't think so. This was just a general discussion and was not targeted to any special group of people.

Please don't be offended and please don't get angry. We discuss here to resolve the the problems and make the service better and everybody here, including you and Bill, have helped and supported me a lot. I just want to ask you to keep on doing it and avoid these kinds of arguments. Thanks in advance

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